…and as everyone except msm predicted, The Orange Man wins

my predicktion was 5-10% margin, it seems even higher. The prediction was based purely on the panic mode msm and leftards entered in the run up to election which will be greatest for Trumpet and pivotal for the world. In fact it is probably one of the greatest victory in the history of the world because winning against every aspect of the most powerful government in the world and other existing powers being engaged in assassination, literal and metaphorical, is indeed “so great win, greatest in the world”. We can safely say that he was robbed when Biden was selected as the president.

Everyone seems to be in the camp that Trump will not do much different than any other president or his previous term. It is a reasonable arsessment with the exception that presd’s in their second term tend to be a bit bolder bc they don’t need to protect re-election. However, if Trump does his thing with tariffs, the world will follow and that will be the mrna jab inducing myocarditis of the globalism. Production of something other than IO or diplomas may actually return to a suburb near you. Wishful thinking. IMO Tariffs may solidify US$ hold on the world but only if he miraculously stops debt growth and preempts hyperinflation.

His mega deal to stop the Ukraine war is likely to let the Greensky actor down the river and go back to Minsk agreement in return for reintegration of Russia into western money flow plus drop all the sanctions. Repair Nord Streams too. He’s a trader, not a political thinker. Putin is a pussy, he may blink.

Trumpet made a number o promises for executive-orders and cancel a large number of Biden era fuckups the moment he steps back into the WH. If he remember these, all of them, then he may actually have some balls. How he positions on genocide in Philistine post-election will indicate the path he’s to take on the world war development.

My hopes are that lefties who dominate every aspect of our lives and leach on our freedoms will be so upset that mrna induced myocarditis will be quite possible (study says that 92% of all leftards are jabbed and multi-boosted and 100% are boosted at least once). They cannot have stroke as the main pre-requirement is having a brain. But then the myocarditis requires heart so…

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Peachy

That’s a good write up.

I also think that trump will be more effective this time around.

he has more experience now, knows the ropes. Apparently has Elon Musk on side and very significant public support (and public rejection of democrat sissy nonsense). What you might call a mandate.

wouldn’t be surprised if the effect of his economic policy will make borrowing rates in US notably lower than the rest of the world. This would be an interesting challenge for asset pricing outside USA

bigduke6

Musk is probably too busy to be as big an influence as the other dems who have joined.

It will depend upon whether Trump really has had a road to damascus moment after being shot as he says.
If so the team of RFK, Tulsi, Musk, Vance and Ramaswamy could turn the USA away from disaster. RFK especially is a game changer vs big pharma and big ag.
If Trump reverts to type and pathetically plays its safe like he did last time then its game over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8o6n-AVqMw&t=1397s

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OzCuck

I think one of the few things that is guaranteed to happen is Elon will streamline government and a lot of middle-aged and older people, a lot of them women, will be sacked, and I don’t look too favourably on their employment prospects. Private businesses will probably favour people who just want to work and not bitch and gossip and play politics. They might have to sell one of their ips.

I listened to ABC Sydney radio for 10 minutes and it was full of older white women calling in and they were very upset. Ha ha.

Oh well play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Stewie

I listened to ABC Sydney radio for 10 minutes and it was full of older white women calling in and they were very upset. Ha ha.

I was saying to my Brother the other day the msm is now basically female coded – every article in the newspapers is basically written by women or faggots, for women or faggots. They’ve basically turned most mastheads into the ‘Woman’s Day’.

In response male readership of most newspapers has plummeted. Most men now don’t get their information from Newspapers – they generally go to Podcasts or Blogs…. just look at the Sausage feast that MB is.

Men basically want news and information presented to them to allow them to form their own independent opinions – women want to know what to think, in order to be in agreement with society.

Our news papers and increasingly other news sources, like our ‘serious media’ are also transforming themselves and reflecting this new reality. The below greentext becomes ever more truthful, especially in regards to media, and goes a long way to explaining the increased distrust of the media.

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the arborist

It’s not just the MSM. It’s most of the machinery of government too. And a fair chunk of corporate.

the arborist

As an example, look at these shitcunts representing the AFP.

https://youtu.be/YvT5xYEZgJM?si=g4wQC8hAH06Q_OIU

Stewie

In other words “As Society no longer has a majority opinion to supporting compulsory COVID vaccinations, so as we aren’t and never have been interested in the underlying factual truthfulness or effectiveness of the vaccine, rather than enforcing social consensus, we are now considering dropping the mandate”.

More than anything else COVID changed my opinion on the role of women in our social narrative, and that the biggest danger they represent to society, especially when given power, is to ruthlessly enforce social consensus. They were the lemmings running us over the cliff.

the arborist

Men bring order. Women bring chaos.

Even the ancient poos knew this.

Kali, also called Kalika, is a major goddess in Hinduism, primarily associated with time, death and destruction.

OzCuck

I agree women need to go back to reading New Idea.

Also I forgot to mention after all the call ins they played an Enya song.

Stewie

“…after all the call ins they played an Enya song”

😂

OzCuck

Not even joking not surprised though. They’ve become such caricatures.

LSWCHP

I’m an engineer, so a bit on the spectrum, and all my life I’ve never taken anything at face value. The aneurotypical thing is definitely correct. As soon as the vaccine bullshit started my reaction was that I wasn’t letting it come anywhere near me for what seemed like blindingly obvious reasons. I was gobsmacked at how everybody else just blindly went along with the scam.

bigduke6

The media controlled the narrative. Its woken a lot up to their lies….

robert2013

BTC went up to record highs the moment Trump claimed victory. BTC is going to double at least before this cycle is over.

Peachy

BTC domination continues to seem pretty inevitable (unless inflation is really brought under control, and I don’t mean “2%”).

I like what Michael Saylor has built and is scaling up. It’s a very clever market-cornering machine and if he can continue executing in a disciplined manner, he may well succeed. If he manages to incite a bit of copycat behaviour by other corporates it will be really wild.

The big picture of it actually resembles ezfka property – limited supply trying to absorb unlimited demand, juiced by leverage and secured by its own rising value.

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The90kwbeast

Interesting that gold and silver have pulled back a little by comparison

Peachy

Can’t read too much into short term price movements

but I think that gold has had a very good run already, somewhat better than i had expected

could be that gold’s potential is well understood, whereas BTC is still being digested, so they move in different directions even while they are similar assets (BTC with obvious advantages)

stagmal

its going to be interesting now watching how many (or rather how few) of his promises he actually intends to fulfil. im guessing very few or none.

LSWCHP

I don’t think so.

Trump was surprised on his first election, he didnt onow how the system worked and didn’t have a plan. He tried his best, but was disorganised and he was outgunned by the deep state.

This time, I have no doubt that he understands the situation, has a plan, and he’s going to put it into effect as best he can.

He also has people like Musk, Vance, Kennedy, Ramaswamy and Gabbard backing him. I’m no Musk fan boy, but he is a guy who gets shit done and takes no prisoners.

I really doubt that the swamps lawfare and bullshit, which was so effective in his first term, will work this time around.

The90kwbeast

I’m more interested to see how he tackles Ukraine and Israel.

Ukraine perhaps some kind of DMZ with borders redrawn, Israel good luck talking down Netanyahu at this point.

stagmal

nobody who is smart is ever going to take the u.s at its word again

A fly in your ointment

It’s not only about smartness.
Some take US at its word because they have no choice.
But yeah, that horse have bolted and now everyone have seen its gone.

stagmal

ok kewl but russia in fact has a choice

A fly in your ointment

But lacks balls.
To a point it is smart to be withdrawn but without power projection this loses its sharp teeth

Define power projection?

Gruppenführer Mark
  1. What is the benefit to Russia in agreeing to a DMZ, given its’ stated goals of the SMO?
  2. What has Israel actually achieved in the 13 months of fighting everybody around them, except killing a bunch of civilians?
Peachy

Could be that it’s almost the same answer to both questions: pursuing the only option realistically available.

  1. Maybe a DMZ option is the only one on the table (except to keep bleeding 300,000 troops per year)
  2. If you can’t negotiate a settlement with bad guys, the only other option is to kill them
Gruppenführer Mark

Maybe a DMZ option is the only one on the table (except to keep bleeding 300,000 troops per year)

DMZ achieves nothing for Russia, and allows Ukraine time to regroup, re-arm, get some fresh soldiers trained. DMZ is being raised as an option by the West, not by Russia. Maybe that is the sign of the West entering the third stage of Kubler-Ross model – bargaining. Russia has always stated that the SMO will end when its goals are achieved. The only difference is how much land will change hands.

Two options are on the table, really, as I see it.

a) continue the war of attrition for Ukraine. Ukraine is losing 2,000 per day. Russia’s confirmed losses (Mediazona) is 75K confirmed and 120K estimated. Total. For the entire 2.5-year long war. Mediazona is a pro-western outlet. I wonder where from you get your numbers of 300K per year.

b) Ukraine capitulation to preserve whatever they have left, and acceptance of a rump state with likely no access to the Black Sea.

The result will be the same, just option b) will result in fewer casualties.

If you can’t negotiate a settlement with bad guys, the only other option is to kill them

Note how my question referred to Israel killing the civilians. I note that in your response bad guys = civilians. Is this how you really feel? That all of Palestine are bad guys? All of Lebanon are bad guys?

The90kwbeast

You are assuming Putin won’t also negotiate with your reply. And is actually wanting what he says at face value.

Gruppenführer Mark

We know Putin will negotiate. He always said that Russia is open to negotiations. Demilitarisation, denazification, Ukraine’s neutrality (no NATO) and peaceful existence of Russian people were the SMO stated goals. Land is not. Best time to negotiate was Istanbul 1 (March 2022), it all went downhill from there for Ukraine, as far as negotiated options go. March 2022 negotiations came very close to fruition, only to be sabotaged by BoJo.

Ukraine is hanging its demands on 1991 borders (including Crimea). This is a non-starter. Also, Zelensky passed an actual law prohibiting negotiations with the current Russian government. Also, Zelensky has been an illegitimate president since May, and Rada (Ukrainian congress) since August, according to the Ukrainian constitution. There is no clarity who in Ukraine can even negotiate from an international law standpoint.

And one more thing that was reported in several news outlets – Ukraine and Russia were holding behind the curtain talks regarding prevention of strikes on each other’s energy infrastructure. Then Ukraine attacks Kursk with the goal of capturing a nuclear power plant for future bargaining, and the talks are off the table. Fast forward two months and Zelensky raises this as a “new” initiative that could start the peace process. Unsurprisingly, that went nowhere.

Guess the summary of the above: Ukraine and the collective West have shown time and again that they are not to be trusted. So the only way Putin will negotiate is from the position of power. Hence, attrition or capitulation.

The90kwbeast

Well we shall see. Obviously negotiation implies both sides have to make compromises.

But it seems to me you either have a DMZ and cessation of war or continued war, and a war Trump won’t fund Ukraine in anymore, meaning Russia wins anyway.

Gruppenführer Mark

Think of it from Ukrainian or, rather, Zelensky point of view. What will DMZ bring to him personally that he could not have had in March 2022? Conditions on offer back then were better. What were the benefits of Ukraine tearing up that agreement and continuing to fight for another 2.5 years? All those lives lost and people maimed. Zelensky, if the DMZ is the outcome, is a dead man. He needs the war to go on as long as possible to maintain his grip on power, so will do everything crazy but seek peace.

Kinda like Netanyahu, who just fired his defence minister Gallant. Gallant was against Netanyahu fighting war on 5 fronts simultaneously and wanted a more focussed approach.

The90kwbeast

My understanding is the benefit or at least assumed benefit at the time was essentially unlimited supply of weapons and munitions from NATO and the US at no cost, if the agreement was torn up.

That is obviously going to change in January to be either heavily reduced, or otherwise issued against a loan to Ukraine, as a form of weaponised debt to ensure its gratitude to the US, and re enabling US control of the terms of further agreements.

I mean what really were Zelenskys goals he could never defeat Russia it was always going to be a bloodbath with no end in sight, other than hoping Putin would capitulate due to the juice not being worth the squeeze.

And he has shown he won’t.

A fly in your ointment

Think of it from Ukrainian or, rather, Zelensky point of view…

I doubt there is such thing as Zelensky point of view. He was trained in the TV show to play a president, some say for future role, and is no more in command then Biden b4 the end. If observed from a npc behaving as pc, it explains a lot. He will be left in ‘power’ as long as there is a tasks for him to complete. Then he’s the next Sakashvili. Could be within months if not weeks.

DMZ imo is a no go. Putin would be stupid to go back to pre 2014 deals and may be asked why his soldiers died. If Trumpet brokers a deal, imo it will be ua capitulation presented as ruskie defeat. I would not exclude Minsk modified to include total demilitarisation but to include free trade with the westworld to imitate lean to west and black rock et cie to retain spoils of war. The only fucked party will be dead people. In due time, UA will integrate back where it belongs. West of Lvov may secede but risks being devoured by neighbours.

Bibi is a rabid dog let lose to complete the dirty deed. Remember him with that image of a bomb in the UN? He is from the pool of Chosen Philistines so won’t go down like Saakashvili. Perfect tuming for the genocide – when US has inept gov thus a plausibility for future generations that its hands were tied. Well planned.

Peachy

I wonder where from you get your numbers of 300K per year.

I don’t know. That’s the impression that I had.

possibly mediazone is counting killed only, whereas my number is total casualties (ie including wounded). That seems like it could be the case as killed:wounded ratio can hover at something like 1:3 to 1:5.

Note how my question referred to Israel killing the civilians. I note that in your response bad guys = civilians. Is this how you really feel? That all of Palestine are bad guys? All of Lebanon are bad guys?

no, of course not. But there are bad guys there and when you go to kill them it is inevitable that civilians also get killed.

interestingly the typical ratio of combatant:civilian casualties is also said to be something like 1:4 in urban warfare (or maybe 1:6? I don’t remember). I wonder if there are stats out there on what the ratios in gaza and lebanon are and if they are significantly better or worse.

robert2013

The DMZ is what’s been implemented in Moldova with Transnistria and in Georgia with South Ossetia (and arguably South Ossetia). It is the Russian MO.

Gruppenführer Mark

Thanks, mate! I learned something new today. Yes, there is indeed a DMZ in Transnistria. I thought they were just controlled by Russian army, like S. Ossetia and Abkhazia (no DMZ there, actually).

Full list of current and old DMZ – it does appear to me that this is a Western MO, not Russian.

The90kwbeast

I mean who knows really but if you believe the media Israel has decimated Hamas, embarrassed Iran, on it goes.

Stewie

With the Ukraine, I am in agreement with much of what has been written above. Putin has effectively achieved 2 out of 3 of his objectives, he’s secured the Donbas and destroyed the first Ukrainian Army and the second and third armies put together by NATO out of their spare parts and supplies.

Denazification means Zelinsky goes – he’ll probably finally become a permanent resident to the 120m pound apartment he bought in London, which is what was revealed in the Panama Papers. The rest of the Nazis will probably flee back to Israel – which is its whole point of existence really.

As for Israel, it will be the complete opposite to what most hope. His daughter married a Jew, he’s a NY’er whose probably been surrounded by Jews his whole life – he’s either become accustomed to working around them or culturally acclimatized to them. Either way he is a big supporter of Israel – he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem for example.

He’ll support Biddi but that said he’ll extract his pound of flesh – his ‘Art of doing the deal’ will ensure that he see’s the US get something out of it. Of course the Jews and Israelis will hate it, they hate paying or doing anything for themselves, but they’ll respect him for it – the last thing Trump is a Shmuck. A benefit of being around them for so long is that he probably knows this better than anyone.

Iran, Syria, etc will be worse off… I sometimes wonder if this was all part of the plan. That the monolithic deep state simply flicked a switch back in 2020 simply because time was of the essence in terms of progressing their plans with the Ukraine, and now that they’ve achieved many of their targets and goals – mainly genociding as many Slavs as possible, they are happy to flick the switch back to its normal settings. It would help explain this….

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Stewie

Stagmal may have a point

Speaking to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on “The Source,” Howard Lutnick, who said he recently spent two and a half hours with Kennedy, also said Kennedy is “not getting a job for (the Department of Health and Human Services),” which is contrary to a claim the activist made earlier this week in which he said Trump promised to give him “control” of several public health agencies, HHS among them. Lutnick also said tech entrepreneur Elon Musk would “help” rather than serve in the government if Trump wins.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/31/politics/howard-lutnick-robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccines-cnntv/index.html

If a toxic Merchant like Lutnick is in the administration then it doesn’t bode well.

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Stewie

I think it will be interesting to see how he ultimately selects for his administration – his choice of Vance over someone like Pence is very telling… imho Trump is now far, far more clued into his voter base and its politics.

Like LCH says, he also seems to be surrounding himself (at least so far with very different people to his first administration, Musk, Vance, Kennedy, Ramaswamy and Gabbard. There isn’t a neocon amongst them…. so far

He also has fanatical devoted followers, eg Bannon, despite their falling out, remains fanatically committed to him. FFS Trump effectively has his own Janissaries – the J6’ers many of whom many have been impressed for the past 2 years.

IMHO his commitment to his promises will become apparent in the coming days as he starts to reveal positions in his Administration. If he starts day one with blanket pardons for all the J6’ers I think it will mean business for many of his other plans.

The question though is how much will Congress, the Senate, the media and the embedded bureaucracy, work against him?

LSWCHP

Unless Trump is stupid, he will have learned how things work in his first term. I assume that this time around they’ve wargamed his plans, and have regiments of high powered lawyers lined up with counter-suits prepared for the inevitable lawfare, lawsuits of their own ready to go etc etc.

Also, my guess is that he’ll go for a shock and awe approach…a massive barrage of extreme (and extremely popular) executive orders on day 1 combined with mass sackings of all the current presidential appointees etc, with the aim of overwhelming the ability of the enemy to respond effectively. Political blitzkrieg. Don’t wait for the enemy, come out swinging, strike them hard, get inside their OODA loop and then keep swinging relentlessly.

I can’t wait to see that freakish trans health secretary…”Rachel” something…kicked out on his disgusting arse.

Nemesis

100% on this^^
What has Trump got to lose? This is his last term, and he has a clear mandate for this time.

The goal will be to set up the new Republican party, which will be ready for Vance to take over.

stagmal

turns out primaries exist for a reason. trying to shuffle in some backroom spook no one wanted or voted for might fly in countries like australia but not there. my guess is the election became unsalvageable for Ds the moment joe biden revealed how senile he really was.

A fly in your ointment

Saturation and memory (the missing ingredients for local awakening).
They just had too much of the same shyte for too long and a candidate who is not a litter of the same ole. No matter how realistic or not, it is a hope.
Unlike Kamilla, Trumpet will make America look great on the way down.

Stewie

For all the criticism of having a President it does have an important safety valve that the Westminster system effectively makes impossible.

There are generally 3 forms of Govt, Rule by the Tyrant or Big Man, Rule by the Oligarchs, and Democracy – each and all have their various benefits and trade offs, yet the faults of which made each vulnerable to instability over the long term.

It was some Greek (Polyibus or something) that had the realization that the most stable form of Govt was the one that combined all 3:

  1. Have your Big Man – your President who is able to get things done without having to ‘return to the committee’ every 4 minutes;
  2. Have your Oligarchs – the people with power ie your big business, reflected through the Senate.
  3. Have your elected rabble – Democracy, which sates the populaces need to have a voice in how they are catered for.

The US has the pressure valve of the “President” when Democracy and the Oligarchs fail, which they inevitably do, the ability to elect a Big Man, someone counter the corrupted interests of the other two, allows change to manifest within society.

Australia though has the Westminster system – here we only effectively have two forms of Government – the Oligarchy and Rabble. There is no 3rd elect, because the whole point of the Westminster system is to protect the interests of the King.

Thus in Australia and all the nations that supposedly experience democracy under the Westminster system, the sort of political change that we are potentially witnessing in the US becomes effectively impossible here – without a “Big Man” to protect our Westminster system effectively becomes a corruptible Duopoly, where change ultimately only becomes possible through the execution or threat of violence.

Hence why imho the US political system, for all its supposed instability, is in fact the more superior and stable political system.

Gruppenführer Mark

I note your comment

of course, above is a satirical thought of the current thing…

However, there are a number of things in your piece I’d like to address, as well as add some of my own thoughts.

First, attaboy for your “predicktion“. Hope you made some money off it. But it was certainly not “one of the greatest victory in the history of the world“. Outside of the echo chamber of the MSM, the mood on the ground was easily read. Kamala never stood a chance. Populace may be sheep, but they do remember what is hitting their back pocket, and last 4 years, compared with the first term of Trump, were certainly not good. Trump won on economy, everything else is an afterthought. Paging Bill Clinton.

Second, I do think that Trump, having won his second term, after being denied (robbed, outsmarted, outmanoeuvred) it in 2020, already got what he wanted – to come back triumphant. Trump approached 2024 a very different man from what he was in 2016, I think he was out for revenge, which he now has. His main job would be to set up JD Vance in 2028.

I think we will still see same old brash Donald, talking loud, announcing attempts to restructure government, downsize, he’ll put Musk in charge of the effort. Problem is, to downsize government necessarily requires parts of the existing government employees (bureaucrats) to take on their fellow bureaucrats – internal fight to secure their own job at the expense of their colleagues. This is not a corporate environment, it is not Twitter getting 75% of its staff laid off. Short of firing the entire agency and hiring new employees, will not work. Much easier to organise passive resistance and wait out 4 years – happens all the time. But this whole thing I expect to be made into a show, especially in the absence of “Russian collusion 2024”.

Third. Tariffs. Sure, raise them 60% on Chinese goods. Two outcomes: US consumer pays more for just about everything, or Mexico imports go even higher. I’ve touched on this before – Mexican imports pretty much correlate with decline in Chinese imports to the USA after last round of tariffs.

Fourth. War in Ukraine. If you do really think “Putin is a pussy“, there is no point of even having this point debated, as the statement is moronic.

Fifth. Palestine. There are still 2.5 months to go to see what Netanyahu will accomplish. In any case, there is only one course of action left – US boots on the ground. Biden has already committed some as THAAD support, without explicitly stating so. Trump may or may not follow, one of his pledges is to have no more wars. That would include Palestine, unless that will turn out to be different. If Jared plays a role in the new Trump administration, this may well become an exception and Palestine continues.

Sixth. Trump is an isolationist. MAGA, MAHA, etc. Nothing about global society, nothing about WEF or the like. But he is entering the world that is drastically different from 2016 and even from 2020. In the last 4 years reality on the ground has changed. USA is not the hegemon any longer, Global South is a real thing, multipolarity is a real thing, BRICS outgrew G7 in GDP, population, economic output, growth forecasts. In this environment it is much harder to be an isolationist and bend nations and regions to your whim. By the end of his second term, we may find even the staunch allies asking themselves “Why do we need the USA?”

Peachy

I would be interested in seeing the tariff plan play out. Would be a great economic experiment.

Don’t have a good sense of value chain structure for a wide range of manufactured goods, but based on what I know 60% on top of ex-China price should be more than enough margin for many many things to be viable to manufacture locally.

As to Americans paying more for things – it could be bent towards the Henry Ford approach of giving the locals high paid jobs so they can buy local high priced goods. Wouldn’t actually be too hard – boot 5m-7m illegals, stop foreign goods dumping and suddenly there’s scope for quality employment. Possibly at the cost of asset valuations.
I don’t think it will be done that way, but it could.

Gruppenführer Mark

In theory this works. 60% margin is enough to stimulate local manufacturing. Unfortunately, this correlation is not instantaneous, unlike a computer game.

Manufacturing requires facilities and skilled labour force. US has been shipping facilities overseas for the last 30+ years. Skilled labour force has either retired or close to it. Currently manufacturing employs 8% of the workforce and is 10% of all economic output. In 1955, it employed 32%.

Last time US tried to do large scale manufacturing, Biden gave $53B to semiconductor industry under CHIPS act. Two years later, other than commitments from companies to invest, agreements on $30B and promises to create more than 115K jobs and produce 30% of all semiconductors worldwide, I am yet to see any results.

US still does o manufacturing cars, but I’m willing to bet (I don’t know the facts) that there are a number of Chinese companies involved in producing parts for final assembly in the US.

Sadly, we are in the same predicament. From manufacturing standpoint, closing auto manufacturing in Australia was the most short-sighted political decision. Kicking out the French and giving submarine contract to US was the second one from memory. We will now spend hundreds of billions on renting US submarines crewed by US Navy. You will own nothing and be happy comes to mind.

A fly in your ointment

Last time US tried to do large scale manufacturing, Biden gave $53B to semiconductor industry under CHIPS act…

This is different from creating environment which has vacuum in the manufacturing sucking in businesses to fill in.
Biden’s chips act is like ndis. Unrealistic hope.

A fly in your ointment

Stacked up so many q’s is difficult to respond. Ends up tldr.

1. No bets and gambles

2. I could agree to that. No hard opinion on the matter.

3. Tariffs are usually reciprocal and methinks Trumpet bets that others will not dare to reciprocate at the same level. Also think what happens to us trade deficit if slopes are tariffed 60%.
I believe reigning the hyperinflation which is a very possible outcome is what matters in this gambit. Of all the big players, us is best positioned to return to manufacturing. Plain ole seppo will pay more but will have a job security. Probably. I doubt he has a plan of what happens after this.

4. That lingo is not appropriate for your character. Leave it to others with more experience and mud on their skin.
If he was not a pussy, would he be tricked by the westworld so many times? The only time he had some balls is to prevent Syria defeat and even that was half arsed. Smart, but pussy.

5. Timing of genocide is not accidental. It also allows US to exculpate it self on grounds of electoral limbo. By the time Trumpet takes the rein all will be finished (as it is already). The Lebanon and Iran shuffle is a distraction from culling Philistines. No one talks that any more.

6.US never had allies, only suzereins and satraps. Trumpet rethoric of them not paying enough (in cash) is just protection price jacking up. He hopes that MIL then may reduce gov tit use and satraps to feed that monster.

Apologies, I haven’t mastered the 140 character twitter response. I tend to expand on my points when having a debate.

1 and 2, aligned.

3, not sure. Stagflation is the most probable outcome for me. Chinese toaster might not be on the priority list for Americans.

4, I don’t have a character. If you would go into detail as to why you think Putin is a pussy, would be much appreciated.

5, aligned.

6, would be interested in your thoughts as to how isolationism affects said straps and suzereins.

A fly in your ointment

I have no objections on elaboration, just that when too many stacked in one spot it is a bitch to respond, particularly from a phone.
Just have them split in several posts.

3. I noted that as a highly likely possibility hence I said “if he can rein over hyperinflation” (resulting from stagflation). When slopes and EUcrats and everyone else reciprocate with tariffs (and they will), tariff given will have to compensate for tariffs received. Seems a zero sum game, but it is not. Whoever is positioned to sell higher tech will benefit more for that tech will be cheaper to untariffed businesses. Next gen iPhone will be more desirable than the next gen toaster or tv or…
If well planned and carefully threaded, it can pan out better for US.

4. No need to reach for the jar with profanities and cheap insults. It just leads nowhere, particularly if your skin is thin.
I explained why he’s a pussy, in previous response

6. Satraps and suzereins do what they are told. Nord Stream and Krauland is a good example of how it affects them. When it’s their due time, they have to accept being flucked without Vaseline and to pay more. EUcrats will not dare breaking up NATO now and become but naked in defense.

OK, let’s focus on 4. I didn’t use profanities or cheap insults. I stated

as the statement is moronic

Not directed at you personally.

If you were Putin, what would you do?

A fly in your ointment

as the statement is moronic

Not directed at you personally

Nice try.
My statement is declared moronic but it is detached from me personally?
LOL

If you were Putin, what would you do?

If I were Scarlett Johanson’s husband, I know what I would do.
Cannot imagine myself to be Putin…
He blinked in Minsk, he blinked in Constantinople, he will blink again. I hope not. Even Xi told him nicely he has to wrap up the works in Malorossiya soon.

OzCuck

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14051095/Andrew-Forrest-daughter-Sophia-Donald-Trump-rant.html

Being a tranny or whatever seems to be a fad for the socialites. I liked them better when they had adopted pet nigger kids.

Stewie

Nah – she is just a cultureless brat playing ‘trans’ the same way privilaged chicks like her use to play ‘lesbian’.

It will end when she realises it is low class and that her more heteronormative siblings start producing offspring that will compete for her Father’s attention, then she’ll be up the duff with mindless Chad sperm donor (probably her body guard) faster than rat up a drain pipe.

Gruppenführer Mark

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Stewie

😬🤠

stagmal

why is trumps step daughter mexican

OzCuck

That’s the standard zoomer look. Plastic slightly ethnic. Anglos try to make out like they’re Orthodox slav.

stagmal

Yeah looks like some Disney Channel spic

OzCuck

They’re all slavs. Gotta work 15 minutes for a loaf of Helgas brown bread.

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Nemesis

Wasn’t her grandmother Ivana Trump slav?

Stewie

His mega deal to stop the Ukraine war is likely to let the Greensky actor down the river and go back to Minsk agreement in return for reintegration of Russia into western money flow plus drop all the sanctions. Repair Nord Streams too. He’s a trader, not a political thinker. Putin is a pussy, he may blink.

Of course Putin will agree if Trump forces the Uke Jew Turd back to the negotiating table for the Minsk agreement – Putin was happy to end the war 2 years ago.

If Putin were an actual pussy the Jews in the Ukraine would still be genociding Russians in the Donbas like they are doing to the Rag Heads in Palestine.

bigduke6

Will you ever say something I dont agree with!!??

Stewie

LOL – I’m sure if I talked shit for long enough you’d find something!

LSWCHP

Nice to see you around Duke. You been getting any trigger time?

bigduke6

Gday Buddy
Not enough – work has been a bit nuts.
Got a new gen of medics who are a bit work-shy and their life balance cant be disrupted by learning the trade by putting in the dang hours.
Hopefully get to the range tomorrow.
Hope you are well.

LSWCHP

I’m feeling the best I have in years. Retirement suits me. I’m working out, bushwalking, golfing, started a band, and cut back on the booze.

It’s amazing how poisonous unrelenting high level long-term stress is. I might be dead or capacitated now if I’d stayed at work.

bigduke6

Mate I hear you – I know its taking years off me….
“But I love it….Goddam I do love it so…” (Patton, Lust for Glory).
I think of retirement every day – 9 more years and done.
Intend to follow your exact path but without the rock band….

LSWCHP

Anybody who claims that Vlad the Impaler is a pussy is…wrong. Just wrong.

A fly in your ointment

And that “anybody” is….?
😉

Aussie Soy Boy

Why did the deep state allow Trump to win this time? Looking forward to hearing some paranoid nutcase theories.

I can understand the enthusiasm about Trump the first time around, but he got very little done the first time around this time he’s in the pocket of people like Musk, so don’t understand any of this enthusiasm a second time around.

Stewie

As I said above:

… I sometimes wonder if this was all part of the plan. That the monolithic deep state simply flicked a switch back in 2020 simply because time was of the essence in terms of progressing their plans with the Ukraine, and now that they’ve achieved many of their targets and goals – mainly genociding as many Slavs as possible, they are happy to flick the switch back to its normal settings. It would help explain this….

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A fly in your ointment

Why did the deep state allow Trump to win this time?

Why would you think that’s the case?

Nemesis

Because the Soy Boy was wrong, he thought Kamala would win, so therefore, it must be the deep state, not the fact he has no fucking idea about anything…

Aussie Soy Boy

I’m having a laugh at you spastics with your paranoid nutcase deep state theories.

Nemesis

sure you were, i think you’re booster is due

stagmal

the answer was bc no one liked kamala harris, it really isnt that complicated. he lost in 2020 bc of covid, everybody likes to pretend the whole world wasnt losing its collective mind over covid then and it wasnt the only issue that mattered. whoever was president then was getting blamed for america’s non-ability to control covid no matter what. also trump went out of his way to really have bad optics on it.

the problem with that zero hedge graph is it ignores this, and also they havent finished counting yet. theres still a lot of votes in CA etc that havent been accounted for, when its all done the vote will look at lot closer to what it was in 2020 though trump will still have won the pop vote.

it amazes me how everybody has forgotten that covid existed. it was the most all encompassing issue of all time between 2020-2022 more so than the war of terror shit in the early 2000s after 9/11. nobody talked about anything else. trump lost mostly bc of that. i cant really explain the seeming *enthusiasm* for him this time round but i can explain the non-enthusiasm for his opponent who no one voted for in the primaries and was super garbage and only had 3 month window to campaign.

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A fly in your ointment

Not so sure about covid.
Without CDC and Faucci, covid would’ve been a nothingburger and fizzled out by the end of the 2020. It was a game that was spun for pharma profit but then they spun it a bit too much and it became the only thing. Trump wanted to rife that wave and democrats snatched it from him, which they probably regret now.
Covid response was purely Democrats baby.

Locally, the sep-nov 2021 hard push for jabbadabba (no jab no job) then Feb 2022 drop like it’s a hot potato can only be explained as “mission accomplished for big pharma, let’s now return to regular programming”

stagmal

Not so sure about covid.

wow then you’re an idiot, everybody was fucking obsesed w covid i was getting yelled at as late as nov 2021 for walking around by myself with no mask on. also its irrelevant why people were obsessed w covid even if it was entirely due to media propaganda doesnt change the fact that they WERE obsessed with it, and that impacted the election result.

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A fly in your ointment

Don’t be a retard and re-read what I wrote.

Without CDC and Faucci, covid would’ve been a nothingburger and fizzled out by the end of the 2020.



stagmal

“its irrelevant why people were obsessed w covid even if it was entirely due to media propaganda it doesnt change the fact that they WERE obsessed with it, and that impacted the election result.”

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stagmal

no the covid obsession peaked in 2020, it had another peak in 2021 but the focus had transitioned from lockdown to the vaccines

people were pissed with trump and blamed him for a lot of the deaths from covid in america in 2020 whether it really was his fault or not (mostly wasnt), and that more than anything was why he lost, as well as covid tanking the economy

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A fly in your ointment

2020. not many knew much. I supported quarantine initially as it can work for any spreadable disease. But then it became clear it was not “about a disease”.
2021. everyone with a bit of brain activity knew covid shyte was plain ole fecal matter. Harshest lock-downs were in that year and September was the “we will do everything in our power to make sure life becomes a nightmare for unjabbed” and no-jab no-job.

Things did not evolve fully for Trump to lose election on covid shyte.

stagmal

bzzzzzzt wrong, he was relatively cruising to re election but covid crushed him

A fly in your ointment

How did covid crush him?

stagmal

are you really this obtuse?

by killing lots of people and him getting blamed for the response

“no one cared about covid in 2020” — king ointment the III

stagmal

yes he was cruising, economy was relatively strong and he was decently popular; he lost on thin margins in 2020, covid killed a lot of old people in arizona etc and turned the ones that lived against him

stagmal

you’re wrong, he most likely would have been elected if covid didnt tank his electoral choices. by your logic he shouldnt have won in 2024 either bc he was also “in a pond with pirahanas all around him” this year too

A fly in your ointment

Of course I am not wrong.
Respirators killed so many and there was nutting Trumpet could’ve done in 2020 to stop the CDC plandemic . Hence he rushed for jab. Demoncrats wanted to snatch that from him; fist thing Biden announced after being parked in WH was that Demoncrats have developed the jab. Then and only then the nightmares begun for commoners and majority awoke to the stink of everything Bidenites did.
I doubt they will ever understand why that buried them.

He made a great feat, erecting to power despite prevalent winds hurricanes. I elaborated on this in the other topic.

Or, as the old (?) meme goes, Putin has singlehandedly defeated COVID with his Ukraine invasion.

A fly in your ointment

and yet, no Nobel prix for medical advancement – inventing not a treatment but a cure!

Aussie Soy Boy

Trump invented the poison you spastic.

A fly in your ointment

Ouch, that’s so msm it hurts just observing it

Stewie

Updated – still doesn’t resemble 2020

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stagmal

but they were voting for joe biden then, not kamala who no one liked. heaps of niggers stayed home this election apparently. people like diamond joe they just knew after the debate this year he wasnt a viable candidate anymore.

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Stewie

The difference to me is more a function of COVID, as you rightly pointed out, and vote harvesting from retirement homes and the absence or reduced focus on absentee voting. This has always been my basis for claiming the 2020 election was stolen, and it is something I still believe.

I don’t know why, but I honestly wonder whether the reason they winged it all in 2020 was Trumps intransigence in refusing* on going to war in the Ukraine, and the time criticalness of their plans vs Russia’s own modernisation and transformation.

Now that the deep state achieved its outcome there they can just go back to BAU tapping of the steering wheel every now and then, rather than an emergency wrench in another direction like 2020.

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Gruppenführer Mark

I think the deep state were very nervous about Trump’s second term. Covid gave them absentee ballots way out to select their candidate. In your graph, Rs had a noticeable jump, like Ds, this was for the optics. There were attempts to do a similar thing with monkey pox we are all gonna die this year. But as I said before, populace may be sheep, but they remember what hits them in the hip pocket.

Nemesis

“It’s the economy, stupid”

Stewie

I honestly think it was a built in time table with the Ukraine – the planning of which had been well under way with Obama. I remember it heating up during the later part of Obama’s campaign, and Trump warning that they wanted war in that region.

Trump treated Putin like an equal leader and adversary, while the media and Obama administrations had spent the previous 10 years transforming him into a monster.

The Biden administration’s sole achievement while it has been in power, from a geopolitical perspective, has been turning Ukraine into a hot conflict. Open borders, gender transition, they’ve been little more than distractions to keep people occupied. Joh Bjelke-Petersen use to call it “Feeding the chooks”, his was a much smaller audience but the outcome was just the same.

That Ukraine war was always the objective explains the rushed exit from Afghanistan. It explains why they dared risk pullback the curtain and reveal their hand by unleashing full social engineering in order to win – they had a time table they had to keep to…. if not there was a risk that it would either be resolved in a manner not to their suiting by Trump, or the Russians may gain the upper hand politically in the Ukraine and reverse the CIA’s coloured revoloution a couple years earlier.

Stewie

I was saying much the same 3 years ago.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2022/02/putin-vows-denazification-of-ukraine-smashing-markets/

Lol – it is funny reading the comments back then… catty DLS calling me “a moron. A Putin Arse Licker.” by proxy through agreeing with an early comment.

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Aussie Soy Boy

So Trump cheated in 2020 with fake ballots?

Stewie

No – the turnout is probably genuine overall, it is more a function of the social engineering, amping COVID, BLM and lockdowns to drive people who wouldn’t normally get off their arse to go and vote broadly in the numbers they did.

At the margins though, I believe they resorted to good ole fashion ballot stuffing if not with allegedly late night ballot deliveries delivering statistically anomalous outcomes, then through outright vote harvesting from old people’s retirement homes.

Aussie Soy Boy

This is the best take. People were really worked up on both sides of politics after 3 years of media saturation of Trump, but then throw that COVID fuel onto the fire where let it rip and the lock em down response was basically defined by what side of politics you were on rather than any kind of health response. People came out in numbers. The Trump tards had such a hard time dealing with the fact they lost (even though Trump did fuck all for four years delivered few of his promises understandable he’d be voted out), that they rioted on the Capitol. Trump even egged it on. Then we had to listen all these paranoid nutcase theories for months and months after this.

I do chuckle at the mental gymnastics of these Trump tards who are mostly anti COVID jab but Trump invented them.

“The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind” and “one of the greatest miracles of the ages”.

Fucking hell.

stagmal

yup

it’s all true

idfk why people believe hes gonna be diff on ukraine either hes going to keep funding this merry go round more likely than not

Aussie Soy Boy

So the deep state go to extraordinary lengths to rig the last election, try twice to kill Trump this time around, but then just give up and let him win in a landslide?

Stewie

If you want a 4D chess level conspiracy style theory (one which I may not necessarily believe), then here you go.

The Deep state now want Trump elected because they have achieved their objectives with the Ukraine, and Biden and more to the point the wilder elements of the Democrat party went off reservation and started attacking Israel.

Trump is in Israel’s pocket so they know that a fake Assassination attempt by a nerd with a scope stuck to his rifle with gaffer tape, was an absolute shoe in for being elected, and little actual risk of actually killing Trump. Trump getting knicked by the assassins bullet (or even cut his ear himself) was extra good luck.

Now that the Deep State has achieved its outcome in the Ukraine, in terms of using a Jewish led Ukranian Government to attack Russia, the US can return to its primary mission – defending Israel. The Ukrainian War was only a side quest.

My personal opinion on that particular incident is still that it was more stochastic terrorism as being a function or reaction of the hysterical media beat up about Trump – due in no small part to factors discussed in other threads further up this particular blog

LSWCHP

In completely insurprising news the Harris campaign had an army of astroturfers spamming social media sites with fake news to make Harris seem more popular than she was.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/29/busted-the-inside-story-of-how-the-kamala-harris-campaign-manipulates-reddit-and-breaks-the-rules-to-control-the-platform/ 

canuckdownunder

This 4B Movement is too good to be true;

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/im-dry-desert-white-liberal-women-threaten-become-pro-life-after-trump-win

TL;DR – lefty whores are going to stop slutting themselves out and refrain from sex until men respect them

LSWCHP

The beautiful thing is, those barren, dry-cunted, freakish, tattooed, lefty fem-critters would only have ever fucked similarly freakish soy-ridden lefty pencil-knecked needle-dicked softcocks.

So the only thing they’re gonna do is to make their now frustrated ex boyfriends start hitting the gym due to all their accumulated testosterone, and then they’ll realise the error of their ways and vote for Trump. Win win.

OzCuck

I’ll give them a week and a half.

Stewie

“No sex before marriage”
“Have men treat you with respect”
“Be aware that there could be consequences from having sex”
“Pursue committed relationships instead of Tinder counts”

Those stupid birds have moved so far left they’ve now gone around the globe and are sitting on the right – they just don’t know it yet.

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robert2013

The entire subversion effort began with women. The purpose was to destroy Western European nations from within. It worked. We don’t breed and we don’t fight when our governments give our inheritance away to foreigners because we didn’t breed enough. Sex that isn’t part of family making is an addiction no different to other drugs. Those liberal women might find something useful to do for their families and their nations, but they’ll probably just find another addiction. Like more activism.

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